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“If REDD is to happen, then the solution is about the payment for environmental services and the price of the carbon compared with the logs. Logs are priced in the market at $US100 per cubic metre of log. It would have to be $US70 per tonne of carbon to compete. Who will pay? If the price is below the [price of a] log, nobody wants to sell. They just cut the trees … It is a question of economics, not a question of conservation.”

— Hadi Daryanto, Secretary General, Ministry of Forestry, Indonesia, June 2012